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Post by Janne M. Korhonen on Jun 1, 2012 19:38:13 GMT 9.5
For advocacy purposes, infographics and images are sometimes very useful. I suggest we collect here useful graphics and ideas for new graphics - I, for one, can be of some assistance in actually executing them. I'll open with this one by Jouni Flemming:
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Post by grlcowan on Jun 2, 2012 1:08:40 GMT 9.5
I think www.skepticalscience.com/docs/Debunking_Handbook.pdf has some good hints for you. You lead with two memes you probably don't want to propagate. The second is that wind turbines are opposed only by NIMBYs, i.e., haven't killed anyone. You can probably figure out what the first is. The Handbook can tell you how to not lead with them, but rather, include them in a defanged manner. If you could make a cartoon of someone concerned about climate, and associated with an antinuclear organization, showing unconcern next to a nuclear ship, that might effectively convey the harmlessness of Teller-compliant nuclear power. www.projectthinice.org/blog/view/3444/
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Post by anonposter on Jun 2, 2012 10:04:18 GMT 9.5
I'd probably have nuclear showing three-eyed fish instead and wind showing the annoying strobe light effect and someone annoyed at the noise.
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Post by BNC Moderator on Jun 2, 2012 15:37:41 GMT 9.5
MODERATOR JMK - great graphic! Barry and a group of others are in the process of developing a new website - KnowMoreFearLess which will concentrate on infographics/videos etc to get across the message, easily,quickly and succinctly, that nuclear power is not to be feared but to be embraced . We are currently gathering such material and appreciate any ideas BNCers may have, along the lines stated above. If you have particular skills with graphics/video making and would like to contribute personally, please email Barry Brook If you simply wish to post those ideas/links on this thread they can be dropboxed to the group. Thankyou for your efforts.
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Post by huon on Jun 10, 2012 16:48:01 GMT 9.5
One striking graphic is the golf ball and the Coke can, which represent the nuclear fuel and waste for one person's entire lifetime. This is a staggering message, conveyed in a simple, almost playful manor. The graphic is near the end of this post by Tom Blees: bravenewclimate.com/2011/05/28/np-cc-what-now/
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Post by Janne M. Korhonen on Jun 11, 2012 19:46:12 GMT 9.5
Thanks for the ideas everyone. I'm not much of a graphic designer, but I can do something, perhaps. Just to be clear, the above graphic is not my work - the cartoon is possibly a syndicated cartoon that made some rounds in Facebook after Fukushima, and a guy named Jouni Flemming added the interesting parts . Here's one of mine, though - this is more the level of graphic design I can provide . Attachments:
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Post by proteos on Jun 12, 2012 5:00:35 GMT 9.5
there's something I don't understand: how twice the weight of coal takes 10 times as much train cars when it's wood pellets? (And besides what's the car on the lower left? )
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Post by Janne M. Korhonen on Jun 12, 2012 5:20:12 GMT 9.5
there's something I don't understand: how twice the weight of coal takes 10 times as much train cars when it's wood pellets? I don't exactly remember where I got the numbers for that image, but looking them up again, I find that anthracite has a relative density of about 1.3-1.4, while wood chips are between 0.3-0.45, depending on the species etc. (Note that wood pellets would be denser, at about 0.6.) So yeah, it's a bit of an exaggeration - should be about 6-8 times as many railcars as anthracite, less if it's lignite. And assuming that the railcars are filled to capacity, which they probably aren't. The text was originally in Finnish, and I fear it lost a bit in the translation. The wood chips thing was a reference to a plan or should I say wishful thinking where Greater Helsinki region would get its energy from wood chips. The logistics would be a thing to behold; I think I got the transport volumes from some publication related to that idea. The car refers to a fact that you can transport a gigawatt day in a trunk of a small car if you use 3rd gen nuclear power .
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Post by anonposter on Jun 12, 2012 7:49:49 GMT 9.5
I'd probably change the decilitre to millilitre (almost no one really knows what a decilitre is (I haven't seen in used around here at least, though Australia did do pretty well in terms of metrication compared to a lot of other places) but millilitres are quite commonly used).
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Post by Barry Brook on Jun 12, 2012 10:13:58 GMT 9.5
Coal would tend to pack tighter than blocks of wood too (depending on size of wood cuts)
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Post by cyrilr on Jun 16, 2012 20:36:32 GMT 9.5
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Post by davidm on Jun 17, 2012 5:57:06 GMT 9.5
It would seem one good way to employ infographics would be presenting it as a road map graphically detailing out how nuclear power could be the majority energy source by say 2050. There is something to the idea that a picture is worth a 1000 words. All I ever get when looking at future energy projections to 2050, whether its worldwide or say China and India, is coal use has gone up and nuclear power, although rising, trails way behind as in this Shell analysis(you have to scroll down). How about a hopeful nuclear projection of what could be in a nice colorful graph.
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Post by Maslo on Jul 8, 2012 6:07:22 GMT 9.5
Here are some:
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Post by BNC Moderator on Jul 8, 2012 9:20:09 GMT 9.5
Thankyou all for the infographics. I am adding them to the KnowMoreFearLess dropbox. Please keep them coming.
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Post by Maslo on Jul 8, 2012 18:59:56 GMT 9.5
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Post by Janne M. Korhonen on Jul 8, 2012 19:56:52 GMT 9.5
Maslo, thanks, very informative. Could you cite the sources as well?
Also, just to clarify - do the figures represent what is needed to build new capacity, or "daily consumption" i.e. building and up-keeping the capacity due to e.g. replacing old power plants with new ones?
For comparison, I dug up some data on concrete and steel production. In 2010, global cement production was about 3300 million tons (Mt). Approximating about 15% cement content for typical concrete, this would yield some 22 000 Mt of concrete, or about 60.3 Mt/day. So solar thermal would use a pretty decent, but probably not unmanageable fraction of all concrete produced.
For steel, the figures for 2011 are 1527 Mt, or 4.18 Mt/day. Using almost 25% of steel production as a "renewable fuel" would be pretty significant!
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Post by Maslo on Jul 9, 2012 7:41:48 GMT 9.5
Maslo, thanks, very informative. Could you cite the sources as well? Also, just to clarify - do the figures represent what is needed to build new capacity, or "daily consumption" i.e. building and up-keeping the capacity due to e.g. replacing old power plants with new ones? For comparison, I dug up some data on concrete and steel production. In 2010, global cement production was about 3300 million tons (Mt). Approximating about 15% cement content for typical concrete, this would yield some 22 000 Mt of concrete, or about 60.3 Mt/day. So solar thermal would use a pretty decent, but probably not unmanageable fraction of all concrete produced. For steel, the figures for 2011 are 1527 Mt, or 4.18 Mt/day. Using almost 25% of steel production as a "renewable fuel" would be pretty significant! The chart seems to come from this article: bravenewclimate.com/2009/10/18/tcase4/
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Post by BNC Moderator on Jul 9, 2012 10:05:22 GMT 9.5
With regards to the graphics being posted here, could you please confirm whether they are available under "Creative Commons" licence. If not, please give details of the source as we will have to ask permission to use them on KMFL. Thankyou.
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Post by singletonengineer on Jul 28, 2012 22:49:02 GMT 9.5
Re concrete volumes in solar thermal power stations:
I have recent experience in the construction of Australia's largest solar thermal array. There is no concrete at all in the arrays and only a tiny amount in survey monuments, drainage structures and steam pipe anchor blocks - mainly in the latter.
Without clear references, this type of incomplete information is easy to shoot down, thus representing an own goal.
For those who are interested, the mirror arrays were entirely supported on small steel screw piles, which were positioned with milimetre accuracy using total station (ie, 3-dimensional) survey equipment which is commercially available the world over. Smart folk, those Germans!
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Post by Luke Weston on Aug 17, 2012 23:19:17 GMT 9.5
And what specific solar thermal plant is this? What's its nameplate capacity? How much energy does it actually generate per year? And what is its actual quantitative footprint, if known, in terms of steel and concrete use? Re concrete volumes in solar thermal power stations: I have recent experience in the construction of Australia's largest solar thermal array. There is no concrete at all in the arrays and only a tiny amount in survey monuments, drainage structures and steam pipe anchor blocks - mainly in the latter. Without clear references, this type of incomplete information is easy to shoot down, thus representing an own goal. For those who are interested, the mirror arrays were entirely supported on small steel screw piles, which were positioned with milimetre accuracy using total station (ie, 3-dimensional) survey equipment which is commercially available the world over. Smart folk, those Germans!
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Post by BNC Moderator on Aug 18, 2012 17:16:47 GMT 9.5
You seem to be getting off topic here. This thread is for infographics and not for discussion of the information provided on an infographic. Please move this to a more suitable thread on the Energy board. When you have done so I will move these last few comments over for you. Thankyou.
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Post by singletonengineer on Sept 22, 2012 21:30:51 GMT 9.5
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Post by David B. Benson on Sept 23, 2012 10:09:13 GMT 9.5
singletonengineer --- Thank you and I hope you are feeling better soon.
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Post by Andrew Jaremko on Sept 12, 2013 3:56:44 GMT 9.5
MODERATOR JMK - great graphic! Barry and a group of others are in the process of developing a new website - KnowMoreFearLess which will concentrate on infographics/videos etc to get across the message, easily,quickly and succinctly, that nuclear power is not to be feared but to be embraced . We are currently gathering such material and appreciate any ideas BNCers may have, along the lines stated above. If you have particular skills with graphics/video making and would like to contribute personally, please email Barry Brook If you simply wish to post those ideas/links on this thread they can be dropboxed to the group. Thankyou for your efforts. Hi everyone and I hope this is a good place for this. This post is prompted by Barry's call for material about embracing nuclear energy. Ben Heard at DecarboniseSA posted about his talk at the ATSE nuclear conference: How can community support for the nuclear option be achieved? | Decarbonise SA. He posted his slides and text, and I made them into a (Canadian accented) video, which Ben has approved: How Can Community Support for the Nuclear Option Be Achieved? - Ben Heard
I'd like everybody to take a look. The video is available for embedding in sites and sharing wherever you'd like to share it. Ben's methods apply to any community, and he learned some of them from a risk communication guru, Dr. Peter Sandman. Rod Adams at Atomic Insights posted about Dr. Sandman: Crash course in outrage management and had him on an Atomic Show podcast: Atomic Show #205 – Peter Sandman teaches nuclear communicators with guests Margaret Harding, Meredith Angwin, and Suzy Hobbs-Baker. I recommend all of these to help understand how to start discussion, instead of wielding facts as a 'mighty sword of truth' in an attempt to slay the dragons of opposition. As Ben says in his presentation, communities will want our information once we establish a mutually trusting relationship and present a strong vision. A small note to the moderator: I tried to set up an account here but got this error message: 'Can't locate object method "report_dc" via package "AC::Bouncr::Client" at /home/adcopy/htdocs/papi/lib/bouncr_report line 34.' from the captcha. I don't see a way to report this to the moderator directly, so here's hoping this will help. I apologize for the part of the post that's off topic for this thread.
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Post by cyrilr on May 8, 2019 18:31:40 GMT 9.5
Here's an image I made comparing lifetime energy generated from solar versus nuclear:
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Post by David B. Benson on Jun 5, 2019 21:55:20 GMT 9.5
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Post by huon on Aug 15, 2022 12:18:57 GMT 9.5
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