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Post by Barry Brook on Sept 20, 2013 17:05:44 GMT 9.5
A new post has been published on BraveNewClimate. Link here: bravenewclimate.com/pandoras-promiseFor my Australian readers, October 2013 is THE month for green energy. It's at last time to book your tickets to see Pandora's Promise!  This BNC Discussion Forum thread is for the comments related to this BNC post. |
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Post by Ed Leaver on Sept 20, 2013 23:23:06 GMT 9.5
I'd like to second Prof Brook's plea for attendance. I watched Pandora's Promise when it screened in Denver in June. The theatre manager was quite disappointed in turnout -- something less than twenty people in the week he could afford to run. There were five of us the night I saw it. So please spread the word. The credits list Prof Brook and Tom Blees as "Technical Contributors" at the end. Also, don't expect Pandora;s Promise to solve the world's problems all by itself. It can't. Its just a single lone 86 minute documentary, and trying to absorb all of what director Stone covers is like trying to sip from the proverbial fire hose. There's just too much, but I don't see how Stone could have done better. Save for one detail: he might have made better use of subtitles to repeatedly re-identify key historic players as they assume their "talking heads" role in the film. These include both Dr. Charles Till and Leonard Koch -- Together! On the Big Screen!! Coming to a theatre near you!!! So if you can get a viewing group together, please encourage them to visit pandoraspromise.com and browse the "Cast" menu before hand, so that they (and you as the alleged expert) might better ask and answer questions afterward. Check out "The Director Responds" as well -- its a wonderfully concise FAQ with which at least the party host should be familiar. A planned post-screening party or gathering might have possibilities. Education is essential: Pandora might pique interest, but its up to the rest of us to follow through. To which end over the summer I've prepared a modest online (draft) article intended as a "one-stop start" for Pandora's Promise viewers curious to learn more about nuclear power, electric power generation and distribution, the fake fire brigade of renewables, and needed policy changes going forward. Pandora's Back Pages is also a standalone piece. Section 10.5 discusses six future electric generation studies: two from the States, two from Oz, one from the UK, and one for the World. I picked up the Australian studies from here; hope I've provided sufficient attribution. Three of the studies were renewables-only, the others included nuclear in the mix. The last, the Global IAM study of section 10.5.6, might be of particular interest here at BNC, it was brought to my attention by Dennis Peterson, and I don't think it's received nearly the flogging it deserves. With suitable revision -- as does the rest of the draft it includes far too much direct block-quotes -- the section might make a decent BNC article. In any event, the Representative Concentration Pathways (RCP) and Integrated Assessment Models (IAM) discussed therein are going to be oft-misunderstood (and maligned) buzzwords after the IPCC AR5 release next week, so one might wish a head-start on those as well. I regret my homepage is not a blog. Its on a Wordpress server so it might be set it up as one, but it isn't, and doesn't at present do comments. If there is any interest I might look into it. Thanks, Ed Leaver |
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Post by Des Carne on Sept 20, 2013 23:26:02 GMT 9.5
Look what all the silver bullets did in Iraq and the former Yugoslavia.
Prometheus did not live happily ever after.
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Post by seamus on Sept 21, 2013 8:42:37 GMT 9.5
Des Carne, hmm, maybe if we turned the depleted uranium into nuclear fuel (which is what a fast reactor does with "fertile" isotopes) it could be used to produce clean energy instead? It's not really "depleted" at all, very little of the energy available, something like 1%, is used in once-thru nuclear reactor fuel. And then it becomes "waste" and used in munitions. So if you'd like to see DU used for better purposes, learn about fast reactors and closed fuel cycles.
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Post by Ed Leaver on Sept 21, 2013 8:43:45 GMT 9.5
Prometheus Bound was but the first play of a trilogy, the only act to survive the great fire(s) at Alexandria. One might try giving it a read some night -- by moonlight. Then imagine various futures in which Prometheus might actually live.
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Post by seamus on Sept 21, 2013 8:52:45 GMT 9.5
Prometheus stole fire (metal working and technology) from Zeus and gave it to humans. This enraged Zeus because it gave us humans a little something extra. Once you have that extra something, there's no going back. We're responsible for our own destiny.
Anti-nuke folks wouldn't just see us turn swords into plowshares. They'd have us give up steel-making altogether. Little hint for ya: that ain't gonna happen!
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Post by Ed Leaver on Sept 21, 2013 15:19:25 GMT 9.5
Not really, Seamus. Prometheus was actually punished for stealing the secret of beer and giving it to the Irish. Something was lost in the transla... Oh, wait... |
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Post by Douglas Wise on Sept 21, 2013 22:53:03 GMT 9.5
I would like to congratulate Ed Leaver for his "Pandora's Back Pages" which provide a wealth of information and relevant references.
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Post by edireland on Sept 22, 2013 7:56:58 GMT 9.5
I should write a short story where humanity uses the glories of atomic fission to free Prometheus from his prison and then blows apart Mount Olympus with massed nuclear weapons.....
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Post by Barry Brook on Sept 23, 2013 11:19:59 GMT 9.5
That's a great document Ed (Pandora's Back Pages), I've promoted it on my Twitter feed.
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Post by Espen Lodden on Sept 26, 2013 6:40:14 GMT 9.5
This sounds very interesting! Will it be available in Europe in the future? If so, do you know when?
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Post by Ed Leaver on Sept 27, 2013 6:22:49 GMT 9.5
This sounds very interesting! Will it be available in Europe in the future? If so, do you know when? London Ritzy Picturehouse November 16. For other arrangements please see pandoraspromise.com/#see-the-film. |
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Post by Espen Lodden on Sept 30, 2013 18:39:10 GMT 9.5
This sounds very interesting! Will it be available in Europe in the future? If so, do you know when? London Ritzy Picturehouse November 16. For other arrangements please see pandoraspromise.com/#see-the-film. Thanks! Netflix should do the trick for us :) |
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Post by Paul Mahony on Oct 1, 2013 7:36:58 GMT 9.5
I'd like to attend in Melbourne on 8th Oct but can't make it. Is a DVD available?
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Post by Ed Leaver on Oct 1, 2013 16:05:46 GMT 9.5
Keep checking Pandora's web site for showing updates. They've added one in Melbourne 7 October. I'd ask any who attend an early screening please consider going with intent to write a short review for your local paper. Don't count on their film critic or Science & Tech columnist to do it for us. A brief paragraph, perhaps have a few points in mind ahead of time. A low-carbon economy need not be energy impoverished - there can be reasonably priced power for all. Needn't be much, and of course one does must watch the film before actually writing a review. Readers might notice something on an Op-Ed page they might overlook in the films schedule. |
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Post by Cinema Ventures on Oct 2, 2013 11:36:46 GMT 9.5
Keep checking Pandora's web site for showing updates. They've added one in Melbourne 7 October. I'd ask any who attend an early screening please consider going with intent to write a short review for your local paper. Don't count on their film critic or Science & Tech columnist to do it for us. A brief paragraph, perhaps have a few points in mind ahead of time. A low-carbon economy need not be energy impoverished - there can be reasonably priced power for all. Needn't be much, and of course one does must watch the film before actually writing a review. Readers might notice something on an Op-Ed page they might overlook in the films schedule. Hi Ed. I'm from Cinema Ventures, the film's distributor in Australia. The film's first screening is actually on October 8 in Melbourne, not the 7th. Thanks for trying to get people interested and involved in Pandora's Promise. People tend to dismiss such films that look at contentious and controversial topics such as nuclear energy. But we wish to push anyone who's interested in climate change and our global energy future to come along and see the film. This conversation needs to happen and we hope that Robert Stone can answer questions and debate the issues surrounding nuclear energy at the Q&A's he'll be hosting after each screening on this tour. Please visit Cinema Ventures for more info and screening dates and tickets: cinemaventures.org/pandoras-promiseEmail me on riley@antidotefilms.com.au if you'd like to chat about anything. |
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Post by stevek9 on Oct 15, 2013 9:11:31 GMT 9.5
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Knuklular Knob Head
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Post by Knuklular Knob Head on Oct 18, 2013 17:00:36 GMT 9.5
Dopey wankers
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Post by QuarkingMad on Nov 1, 2013 12:56:05 GMT 9.5
Rod Adams video is one and the above is another.
Nice to know that the people that oppose you have to resort to anger, foul language, and ad hominems.
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Post by TMJ on Dec 30, 2013 15:47:15 GMT 9.5
Pandora's Promise was shown on CNN here in the US. It is now available to rent or buy on iTunes . FYI for those who missed it in theaters. It is a wonderful primer for those wanting to learn about nuclear power.
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